The Tentacle is Hungry, i have plenty of food. Cannot figure out how to feed it. It would be very helpful to have a basic guide of the various elements of the game, a sort of how to...
So Ive been playing the game for about 2 weeks now but with some creatures i just get ... ... ... ... ... when i try to bond with them. solution? also love the game keep up the good work
Can't wait for more updates! Also how do I access the Queen's nest? And can you add one or two more bonding scene(s) for Rotten Root because I liked it and lore plus can you add something special on benefits
Thanks Venzen. Yea the contents will continued to be updated. I can't guarantee which species will have more scenes, it all base on how inspired we are.
Hi, NonoPlayer. I'm very glad you keep updating your great game. Cant imagine how much work you did this way. But i'd like to know if there any chance to see options like volume control and skipping bonding scenes in near future updates?
This game is excellent, and it's a pleasant change to see someone so articulate write the dialogue and narratives in a Hentai game. I love it so far <3
Hi,NonoPlayer, I like your game very much. Now the 4.02 version of your game is in progress. Personally, I prefer to update the new content When will 4.03 be updated
I do have a tumblr, but it was abandoned due to them banning sharing of porn. But here it is, it has the most gif outside of Patreon. https://nonoplayer.tumblr.com/
Your tumblr page i have been visit it, and all of them i have to downlad it, in totaly, i have 52 gif from your art. I'm very like it, and my characteristics is the collector.
Actualy, in your page (tumblr) it just have small of you have, i know that. So i find any your art from another pages. I get it, but i know it's not all from you have. XD
Maybe it's me but, in this version I can't explore nothing more than the secret garden and furthermore several areas seems empy (like the desert) what I'm doing wrong?
When I download the .swf file for mac, I only extract a file full of resources for the game such as images and sound files without being able to actually open the game. Am I doing anything wrong?
Hi, first of all, great game! Found it via your crosspost on Sierra Lee's patreon and am awestruck with it! :) I have some issues with 'train for hunting special items' though:
- I successfully found a potato, but my Dolphy seems to have vanished doing that.
- I only got to clear the objective in the instinct tree and learn crafting the next round after I found the item. That is to say, after I rested. Which isn't a big issue per se, but I kept looking around and reloading a few times before I just gave up, it was just confusing.
- I can only train for hunting as long as I still have all 5 unused actions of that round, even though it says, for example, 2 turns for Inker with 78 intelligence. When I try to let that Inker train with only 4 or less actions left, it says 'Not enough turns are available for the task'.
Not sure if any or all of those or bugs or working as intended, but I thought I'd let you know.
Anyways, thanks for the game, looking forward to seeing it develop further! :)
Hey! I REALLY love your game and I'm considering pitching in a few dollars on patreon. Terrific work! I wish these games were easier to find, I found this one by complete chance as I saw some of the scenes on rule34 and found my way here.
Quick question: I didn't really understand the endings progress page, it says available in future version but there are already a few endings requirements there. So I tried completing Slave of All by resting 365 times but nothing happened, am I missing something or is this normal?
I love this game and the thought of breeding an army but i am honestly so upset that i can not figure out how to save. It almost makes me not want to play it. Am I overlooking it? i dont see the save option anywhere. If it's supposed to autosave, I dont think it is. when i press load nothing happens. am i doing something wrong? if so how can i fix it?
edit: i found where to save but it still doesnt load when i press load. im using the exe downloaded from here.
I tried searching for TTv4_Save.sol in C:\Users\[Your User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\[Random Number]\localhost but it says no items match my search.
I had a similar issue, I find running the .exe in admin mode works. Your settings on windows probably require higher administrative functions to save in the required directory.
Hey, quick question. Was wondering if A. There is an android version of this game. And B. (If there isn't) are there any plans to make it compatible with android?
Hi nono. Will lilith have a dialogue during bonding with the other tentacle species in the future? You know, like Octoseal, Moth, Panthercap, etc. Btw, i love this game!
Hi nono. I want to invade more areas but I have lack of my army number. Only 8 members of tentacles are quite tough to invade other areas. And I also want explore more areas but somehow it doesn't work. I feel locked. I wish you unlock more areas on the map and skills too. Like 10 army for example. I can't get this skill unlocked! Help!
And I have question. Where is 20 lev special bond? I have 21 lv Harsaka but I still have not seen Special bond yet. Still I love this game and playing now too.
Hi! The new species - are they able to found in the wild, within what's released so far? Because I think I have invaded all lands, but there is no more expansion - i'm guessing future release will come with more land expansion? And i couldn't find any new monsters anywhere now :( the game is great though! Really enjoy it.
You need to unlock the skills from Instinct. The first skill is the world map where you can explore other areas. But Bonding is a feature where you can mix and match to create new species, if you understand the mechanism and have the ingredients.
Game is great, love the animations and the mechanics but every time I get to an animation, the game becomes extremely sluggish and eats up my CPU. It’s basically unwatchable. I’m not a computer savvy person so is there a way to fix this?
Hi nono, i really love this game but at some point i got stuck and i feel like the game is kinda confusing and i can't open any other skills after the 2nd skill and i can't find or see and enlightment goals even after bonding many tentacles... Some help about how to open conquer skill? And i hope the whole game settings and stuff would get easier in the future updates, like i don't even know how to take another area... And maybe a guide to how to play would be nice? Thanks for help...
Could you make more different videos when bonding? it becomes boring just watching the same thing, even if storyline changes. My favourite videos are: Dubios both videos, Maratus and Beringarius make more videos like them if you can. Also add some more frames, it looks kinda choppy especially with the anal Dubios, it would look way better if you added another frame while hes inside her
Edit: i realized how complaining i was, it is a really super good game. And i like it.
Haha no worry. And thank you for trying the game. I also love Dubois, he is the most fun to design XD And I hear you, though we are a small crew, we can only craft as many animation within our abilities. There are a lot more species we want to create.
The downloadable versions are sometimes better in terms of performance, if you haven;t tried that already.
Yeah i downloaded it, im just waiting for more updates because ive completed the main storyline (though i have a bit more territories and monsters to collect
Edit: i forgot to say this, but i stumbled upon a gallery of this game. I saw a scene with 2 monsters. First do you have any hints for how to get it? Second are you gonna make more?
I just stumbled upon this game while looking into web games and Oh My God, this game waaaaaaay surpassed my expectations! I'm not into tentacles myself but the way this game depicts them is so amazing and (sorta)wholesome!
And having my own army of tentacle monsters sure feels amazing i tell ya, i only played around to round 9 and i'm sure I look forward to be playing more
First impressions of v4: The moods mechanic is really interesting, and makes this feel like an entirely different game! I liked the previous version, and I look forward to seeing how this new change plays out. The new (I think?) additions of more tentacle story arcs and at least one new animation (or more!) really shine.
My only concern is that without the other types of bonding (feeding, playing, etc.) available, it feels like "bonding" is a constant necessity that could lose its appeal after too much repetition. (Also by virtue of it feeling like a "necessity" more than a fun game mechanic.) I already find myself clicking through scenes I'd previously looked forward to, trying to unlock/reinstate the ability to raise Relationship stats. Do I just need to be patient and unlock "feed," "play," or "discipline" abilities later? (I've mostly been playing short test games to get a feel for the new features. And trying to unlock the Queen's Nest lmao.)
Also I can't seem to locate where Intel is recorded, now. I can scout, but the "Intelligence" tab eludes me. Maybe I'm just overlooking it. The Encyclopedia being immediately accessible is fantastic, but it's a little frustrating that the save function is a bit more buried now.
I really appreciate the increased emphasis on getting new species at random when bonding is concerned, but are all wild encounters going to be a dice roll as well? (This isn't a gripe; I've just noticed that I still get random offspring regardless of the method used.)
This is a huge change and it's obvious how much hard work went into it. I hope that at least part of this ends up being useful and doesn't come off as petty complaining.
Aww, thank you for the detailed feedback. 1.There won't be feed, play and gift in newer design. We just apply the item/craft when we want to use them. 2. Intelligence should be on the Map (click the eye icon), after scouting is being unlocked. If you can't find it then it could be a bug. Please let me know~ 3. Wild encounter can be less random, we can partner with an appropriate monster while exploring, and Lilith would offer some hopefully useful advice about the direction.
Thanks, that is very good to know. I did come across the Intelligence tag after downloading the game and playing offline (I'm on Chrome) so I might have overlooked it during my first online attempts, or it may have been a fluke or bug with Chrome.
Thanks again for all the work that you put into your game, and your patience with the players.
I followed your instructions for saving, but no matter what I tried it doesn't load my save file. I went to the local save location where it originally saved the "TTv4_Save.sol" file and moved it to the same folder where the original file is located. I'm at a loss, but I really enjoy the game so far! Any advice will be much appreciated.
Weird, downloading through itch.io just gave me a lot of # files and no swf or exe, did i do something wrong? i tried uninstalling and reinstalling too. Really weird. guess i have to download through browser for now.
Anyone with Flash Player installed can still play all the updates much like now. Newgrounds Player is also available: https://www.newgrounds.com/flash/player And Air will still continue to be supported by Adobe.
To reuse your save, you must rename your newly downloaded file same as the one you saved your game, as well as putting it into the samedirectory of your previous file.
It is more complicated to get web version's save to work for newer version. You have to find and replace new save by locating the path much like below:
Newgrounds save location (Firefox): C:\Users\[user account name]\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\[RANDOM LETTERS]\uploads.ungrounded.net
Any chance of recovering a browser save in Chrome, post-update? I have the downloaded version, but I originally started playing on here, and was quite a ways into the game.
Thank you mate. Queen's Nest is designed for more rapid breeding, so it has a downside. Bonding offers more control when needed. Give public v4 a try if you haven't ^^
Love the game, but it's a bit confusing on what I'm supposed to do. Also whenever I look up what I should be doing or where I'm supposed to go, there rarely is any information. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing right now. Currently I've gotten to the nursing Instict, not sure if I have it or if that's next, and I don't know how to start a battle, which I assume is how I progress through the game. Please if anyone knows how to help me, please do.
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The Tentacle is Hungry, i have plenty of food. Cannot figure out how to feed it.
It would be very helpful to have a basic guide of the various elements of the game, a sort of how to...
so figured it out... its a quest thing, keep bonding until you get a feeding scene
It's a good idea and worth adding to the plot in games
So Ive been playing the game for about 2 weeks now but with some creatures i just get ... ... ... ... ... when i try to bond with them. solution? also love the game keep up the good work
Yea some of them don't have stories yet. But we are catching up.
Can't wait for more updates! Also how do I access the Queen's nest? And can you add one or two more bonding scene(s) for Rotten Root because I liked it and lore plus can you add something special on benefits
Thanks Venzen. Yea the contents will continued to be updated. I can't guarantee which species will have more scenes, it all base on how inspired we are.
Oh for Queen's Nest, you have to lv up a Slime Eye to Lv14. It is designed to be its benefit.
where do I open this into on iPad? Cause I’m not having any luck so far for downloading it
People can play flash games on Mac, but I don't think it is supported on iPad unfortunately.
dang, well thanks for the reply
Hi, NonoPlayer. I'm very glad you keep updating your great game. Cant imagine how much work you did this way. But i'd like to know if there any chance to see options like volume control and skipping bonding scenes in near future updates?
Of course! And thank you for the feedback and suggestions. They are in my to do list.
This game is excellent, and it's a pleasant change to see someone so articulate write the dialogue and narratives in a Hentai game. I love it so far <3
Awww, thank you for noticing our effort for the stories!
Hi,NonoPlayer, I like your game very much. Now the 4.02 version of your game is in progress. Personally, I prefer to update the new content When will 4.03 be updated
v4.03 has just been released for Patreons: https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-release-30709665
I release public update of previous version as well as new version every month.
Hi NonoPlayer, i'm very like with your game.
To the point, can me get link of all scene bonding in your game? (.gif format HD (1280x720))
Sorry, and very thanks.
XD
no
why? :)
What because the copyright?
I do have a tumblr, but it was abandoned due to them banning sharing of porn. But here it is, it has the most gif outside of Patreon.
https://nonoplayer.tumblr.com/
Your tumblr page i have been visit it, and all of them i have to downlad it, in totaly, i have 52 gif from your art. I'm very like it, and my characteristics is the collector.
Actualy, in your page (tumblr) it just have small of you have, i know that. So i find any your art from another pages. I get it, but i know it's not all from you have. XD
Yea they started banning porn. I don't know where else I can share them. I am thinking about trying Twitter next month.
Maybe it's me but, in this version I can't explore nothing more than the secret garden and furthermore several areas seems empy (like the desert) what I'm doing wrong?
See if our Fan-made Wiki could help: https://unofficial-tentacles-thrive.fandom.com/wiki/Unofficial_Tentacles_Thrive_...
When will the next update releases. I am waiting for the next update of this game. I love this game. Please release the update soon as possible.
Thanks~ Its coming up in a few days. I have chart on our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nonoplayer
Hmm, can't say I have tried itch launcher. There is nothing required to install other than Flash Player to run the exe.
Something to do with the itch launch for sure. The copy I downloaded from the site saves fine, the one installed via itch launcher doesn't.
See the Q&A page on the fan Wiki
https://unofficial-tentacles-thrive.fandom.com/wiki/Q%26A
When I download the .swf file for mac, I only extract a file full of resources for the game such as images and sound files without being able to actually open the game. Am I doing anything wrong?
Yea its just one file, the swf. But I can't say I have enough knowledge how Mac works so I can't offer much help unfortunately.
sorry but i cant suport it ;-;
Haha no worry, as long as you enjoy our craft <3
Hi, first of all, great game! Found it via your crosspost on Sierra Lee's patreon and am awestruck with it! :)
I have some issues with 'train for hunting special items' though:
- I successfully found a potato, but my Dolphy seems to have vanished doing that.
- I only got to clear the objective in the instinct tree and learn crafting the next round after I found the item. That is to say, after I rested. Which isn't a big issue per se, but I kept looking around and reloading a few times before I just gave up, it was just confusing.
- I can only train for hunting as long as I still have all 5 unused actions of that round, even though it says, for example, 2 turns for Inker with 78 intelligence. When I try to let that Inker train with only 4 or less actions left, it says 'Not enough turns are available for the task'.
Not sure if any or all of those or bugs or working as intended, but I thought I'd let you know.
Anyways, thanks for the game, looking forward to seeing it develop further! :)
I hear you. Will try to improve the confusions. The trained monster can be found via Map > Intelligence, where you can summon it to return.
Ooohhhh, it kept collecting, I didn't get that. Thnks a bunch! ^^
How to SAVE ? ty
i stumbled upon a gallery of this game. I saw a scene with 2 monsters. First do you have any hints for how to get it? Second are you gonna make more?
Haha yea we would love to make more gang scenes XD You will need to get a Slime Eye to Lv14, to unlock Queen's Nest.
I just got this game and I love it keep it up. By the way how do you get endings and the gallery?
How do get nursing? Am explore but no injure
Need to use up all stamina of a monster. Hunting is a faster way ;)
Hey! I REALLY love your game and I'm considering pitching in a few dollars on patreon. Terrific work! I wish these games were easier to find, I found this one by complete chance as I saw some of the scenes on rule34 and found my way here.
Quick question: I didn't really understand the endings progress page, it says available in future version but there are already a few endings requirements there. So I tried completing Slave of All by resting 365 times but nothing happened, am I missing something or is this normal?
Aww thanks~ Yea those endings are just placeholder for now^^
I love this game and the thought of breeding an army but i am honestly so upset that i can not figure out how to save. It almost makes me not want to play it. Am I overlooking it? i dont see the save option anywhere. If it's supposed to autosave, I dont think it is. when i press load nothing happens. am i doing something wrong? if so how can i fix it?
edit: i found where to save but it still doesnt load when i press load. im using the exe downloaded from here.
I tried searching for TTv4_Save.sol in C:\Users\[Your User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\[Random Number]\localhost but it says no items match my search.
it loads when i play it on here but not on the exe.
Okay thank you for letting me know. What OS are you playing it on?
WIn 10
I had a similar issue, I find running the .exe in admin mode works. Your settings on windows probably require higher administrative functions to save in the required directory.
Thanks mate~ Steam, yes I do am considering it.
Hi there, how am i mean to s select a monster to hunt?, i clicked and nothing happens
Do you have any mature monsters?
Hey, quick question. Was wondering if A. There is an android version of this game. And B. (If there isn't) are there any plans to make it compatible with android?
No Android version yet. But yes I can try making Android builds in the future.
That would be fantastic! Thank you, I love the game and feel an android expansion would be great.
Hi nono. Will lilith have a dialogue during bonding with the other tentacle species in the future? You know, like Octoseal, Moth, Panthercap, etc. Btw, i love this game!
Of course! We are catching up with the lore and bonding stories currently. Moth is ready in v4.02.
Hi nono. I want to invade more areas but I have lack of my army number. Only 8 members of tentacles are quite tough to invade other areas. And I also want explore more areas but somehow it doesn't work. I feel locked. I wish you unlock more areas on the map and skills too. Like 10 army for example. I can't get this skill unlocked! Help!
And I have question. Where is 20 lev special bond? I have 21 lv Harsaka but I still have not seen Special bond yet. Still I love this game and playing now too.
Yea I hear you, I will work on those skills in Instinct soon.
Special Bond is not quite developed yet also ^^
Hi! The new species - are they able to found in the wild, within what's released so far? Because I think I have invaded all lands, but there is no more expansion - i'm guessing future release will come with more land expansion? And i couldn't find any new monsters anywhere now :( the game is great though! Really enjoy it.
Thanks~ Not all species can be found in the nature. Some require breeding.
i honestly cant figure out how to do find the other monsters. Are there other areas besides the garden?
You need to unlock the skills from Instinct. The first skill is the world map where you can explore other areas. But Bonding is a feature where you can mix and match to create new species, if you understand the mechanism and have the ingredients.
Game is great, love the animations and the mechanics but every time I get to an animation, the game becomes extremely sluggish and eats up my CPU. It’s basically unwatchable. I’m not a computer savvy person so is there a way to fix this?
Thank you for letting me know. What version are you playing, web or downloaded exe/swf? And what OS(Windows/Mac) are you using?
Hi nono, i really love this game but at some point i got stuck and i feel like the game is kinda confusing and i can't open any other skills after the 2nd skill and i can't find or see and enlightment goals even after bonding many tentacles... Some help about how to open conquer skill? And i hope the whole game settings and stuff would get easier in the future updates, like i don't even know how to take another area... And maybe a guide to how to play would be nice? Thanks for help...
Thank you for liking the game ^^
The 3rd skill is nursing, its requirement is getting a monster injured. Let me know if you see this description, it could be a bug if you don't.
Invade should be 4th or 5th skill.
Could you make more different videos when bonding? it becomes boring just watching the same thing, even if storyline changes. My favourite videos are:
Dubios both videos, Maratus and Beringarius make more videos like them if you can. Also add some more frames, it looks kinda choppy especially with the anal Dubios, it would look way better if you added another frame while hes inside her
Edit: i realized how complaining i was, it is a really super good game. And i like it.
Haha no worry. And thank you for trying the game. I also love Dubois, he is the most fun to design XD And I hear you, though we are a small crew, we can only craft as many animation within our abilities. There are a lot more species we want to create.
The downloadable versions are sometimes better in terms of performance, if you haven;t tried that already.
Yeah i downloaded it, im just waiting for more updates because ive completed the main storyline (though i have a bit more territories and monsters to collect
Edit: i forgot to say this, but i stumbled upon a gallery of this game. I saw a scene with 2 monsters. First do you have any hints for how to get it? Second are you gonna make more?
I just stumbled upon this game while looking into web games and Oh My God, this game waaaaaaay surpassed my expectations! I'm not into tentacles myself but the way this game depicts them is so amazing and (sorta)wholesome!
And having my own army of tentacle monsters sure feels amazing i tell ya, i only played around to round 9 and i'm sure I look forward to be playing more
Haha thank you for trying and your kind words!
I cant get the file to download. Love this game a lot btw
NVM download wouldn't work in Firefox but worked fine in chrome <3
Thank you for notifying me~ Just tested it now, confirmed an issue. I will try to fix it, if not I have to contact itch.
First impressions of v4:
The moods mechanic is really interesting, and makes this feel like an entirely different game! I liked the previous version, and I look forward to seeing how this new change plays out. The new (I think?) additions of more tentacle story arcs and at least one new animation (or more!) really shine.
My only concern is that without the other types of bonding (feeding, playing, etc.) available, it feels like "bonding" is a constant necessity that could lose its appeal after too much repetition. (Also by virtue of it feeling like a "necessity" more than a fun game mechanic.) I already find myself clicking through scenes I'd previously looked forward to, trying to unlock/reinstate the ability to raise Relationship stats. Do I just need to be patient and unlock "feed," "play," or "discipline" abilities later? (I've mostly been playing short test games to get a feel for the new features. And trying to unlock the Queen's Nest lmao.)
Also I can't seem to locate where Intel is recorded, now. I can scout, but the "Intelligence" tab eludes me. Maybe I'm just overlooking it. The Encyclopedia being immediately accessible is fantastic, but it's a little frustrating that the save function is a bit more buried now.
I really appreciate the increased emphasis on getting new species at random when bonding is concerned, but are all wild encounters going to be a dice roll as well? (This isn't a gripe; I've just noticed that I still get random offspring regardless of the method used.)
This is a huge change and it's obvious how much hard work went into it. I hope that at least part of this ends up being useful and doesn't come off as petty complaining.
Aww, thank you for the detailed feedback.
1.There won't be feed, play and gift in newer design. We just apply the item/craft when we want to use them.
2. Intelligence should be on the Map (click the eye icon), after scouting is being unlocked. If you can't find it then it could be a bug. Please let me know~
3. Wild encounter can be less random, we can partner with an appropriate monster while exploring, and Lilith would offer some hopefully useful advice about the direction.
Thanks, that is very good to know. I did come across the Intelligence tag after downloading the game and playing offline (I'm on Chrome) so I might have overlooked it during my first online attempts, or it may have been a fluke or bug with Chrome.
Thanks again for all the work that you put into your game, and your patience with the players.
I followed your instructions for saving, but no matter what I tried it doesn't load my save file. I went to the local save location where it originally saved the "TTv4_Save.sol" file and moved it to the same folder where the original file is located. I'm at a loss, but I really enjoy the game so far! Any advice will be much appreciated.
Thank you for trying ^^ So how are you playing it, like web, swf or exe?
Weird, downloading through itch.io just gave me a lot of # files and no swf or exe, did i do something wrong? i tried uninstalling and reinstalling too. Really weird. guess i have to download through browser for now.
What is going to happen here now that Flash is being phased out?
Anyone with Flash Player installed can still play all the updates much like now. Newgrounds Player is also available: https://www.newgrounds.com/flash/player
And Air will still continue to be supported by Adobe.
How can I unlock bonding option?
Try public v4 that are just released. I have simplified it.
every version of this game ive played i could never save and so i can never play for long with out restarting.
Downloadable version are easier:
To reuse your save, you must rename your newly downloaded file same as the one you saved your game, as well as putting it into the same directory of your previous file.
It is more complicated to get web version's save to work for newer version. You have to find and replace new save by locating the path much like below:
Newgrounds save location (Firefox):
C:\Users\[user account name]\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\[RANDOM LETTERS]\uploads.ungrounded.net
Any chance of recovering a browser save in Chrome, post-update? I have the downloaded version, but I originally started playing on here, and was quite a ways into the game.
really loving the game so far but i really wanna know what exactly gives my soldiers more experience? how do i level them up?
You can gain relationship points (RP) through bonding, missions or battle. Some moods offer more points so it requires a bit planning in v4.
hey nonoplayer really really great game ,
but can you make the queen nest by selected monsters and not randomly?
thank you, really great game
when i get the money i am gonna donate you 650$, for only if you keep going and don't stop from improving this game.
Thank you mate. Queen's Nest is designed for more rapid breeding, so it has a downside. Bonding offers more control when needed. Give public v4 a try if you haven't ^^
Is the Queen's Nest fully removed from v4? I liked the options of rapid/random breeding verses bonding. Added to the sense of strategy.
Love the game, but it's a bit confusing on what I'm supposed to do. Also whenever I look up what I should be doing or where I'm supposed to go, there rarely is any information. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing right now. Currently I've gotten to the nursing Instict, not sure if I have it or if that's next, and I don't know how to start a battle, which I assume is how I progress through the game. Please if anyone knows how to help me, please do.
Sorry for the confusing UX/UI. Public v4 is out, I have simplified quite a bit. Give it a try if you haven't ^^