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Then I have a Question about breeding. Since it's the most ''interesting'' part for me i wonder if you only can breed with the 4 monsters that are on the main map ?
1. After that i want to say that that the whole Hunting and Food system is very irritating. I was lucky so get 109 Food through a bug and that made the game much more enjoyable for a short time. I would suggest to either buff the hunting skills of basically everything or just leave the food system out complettly. I've at least spend 20 rounds just on hunting which is no fun.
2. For the invade/battle system i wish you could switch the line up right befor the start of the fight, as far is i know you only can manipulate the line up through the order on which you ad them in the Royal army.
And then i have to say that you created an uniquely sexy Charakter with the Queen. I don't know what it is but i have never seen such a hot virtual charakter.
And then i have to say that you created an uniquely sexy Charakter with the Queen. I don't know what it is but i have never seen such a hot virtual charakter. Absolutely right!
1) Yea I was trying to implement the negative consequences later after more core features are introduced, but some people wanted some challenge so I went with it. But loading game offer 99 food when you have no food is left, that is a transitional arrangement for now. Not a bug :)
2) It will be an unlockable feature to arrange your line up.
I actually skipped 2.10, going directly
to this version (3.01). And I'm quite impressed by progress. I really
like it and am looking forward for future releases. Trust me, I've
never before spent 5+ hours on a flash game before :O
However, I've noticed numerous issues:
- 1) First off, there is a programming
error - on Moth encounter, an Inuax is born (on second play Scrapper
was, so there is definitely some bigger error). Also, When I reached 5x Dubois,
further attempts produce Scrappers. Also, after "bonding"
with Cirrus, another Scrapper spawned. I consider this to be a
vitally major problem, because well... it's not like player breeds Lilith with a
certain species to get a random one :D
- 2) And yes, an aforementioned food
supply problem. Even as Dubois gets 3-5 food per hunt, usually 4,
that means if we sacrifice an entire round for hunting, and if we are
very lucky, the maximum potential food production per round is 25 –
which is equal to monster number cap in this respect. However, every
hunt costs 30 stamina, while a monster regenerates 20 stamina per
round. This means that for every turn in a round we have to have 2
food gathering monsters, which will hunt interchangeably between
rounds. The result is that player is forced to have 10x Dubois (after
getting 5 of them I started getting Scrappers from breeding Lilith
with Dubois [WTF?!]) in order to sustain a 25 unit strong population
- and we assume you're getting 5 food from every hunt and spend all
turns on hunting only. I
comply with former suggestions about creating hunting parties, just
like Royal Army is done. Or perhaps being able to add multiple
monsters to a single hunt. Bottom line, food economy was a bit hard on economy
even before, with added stamina it quickly makes you lose random
monsters. Usually it's a freshly born one that is about to mature
into the kind of monster you wanted. - really, at my second play, I
just kept low pop, bred Dubois only and stockpiled a ton of food
before I moved on to breed an army. Though I suspect it won't last
for long. Generally, after like 12 units you get bottlenecked on
supply.
Correction: With 12 units I'm generally
able to keep a positive supply of food, having 4x Dubois. Still, this
system could be better. As I consciously have to ommit hunting in
order to get rid of monsters that no longer support the immediate
tactics.
- 3) Also, dismissing monsters. That
would be a major utility, to keep control of food drain, while
keeping precisely the monsters you need. At the moment, the only way
to get rid of monsters is to starve them. But again, it takes either
a random one or „the least loyal one”. Usually a newborn if there
is, which is bad. Couple this with point 1) and you're losing the
whole strategy in this game, because you get a random monster which
you have no way of getting rid of other than getting 0 food.
- 4) Then, I was pleasantly surprised
with the addition of "Bonding" feature, but still, it has
issues.
Primarily, I don't see what monster level gives. I have a lv4 and lv3
Dubois and they seem to have actually lower stats than freshly
matured ones. Perhaps level could give an increased stamina regen
instead? That actually would make "bonding" feature
worthwile. And would be a lot simplier in programming, and as such,
less prone to bugs. Because, every monster has different stats so you
have to manually set which ones are advanced (unless all are, though
+1 for every level is... little, considering they usually have 40-70
points on a trait). Bonding with a certain monster is simply... not
economical at all as it is now.
- 5) Also, the Royal Army problem I've
seen in reviews on NG (where I originally found your artwork) and had
it confirmed in-game – if a monster gets injured in combat, it
retains „R” even though it's removed from army. Thus, if it
heals, it can never be reassigned anymore.
- 6) Other thing, what I also saw
mentioned on NG and support would be a button to immediately return
to base without the need of clicking a lot.
- 7) Round counter. It counts from
round 99 downward, eventually reaching negative values. The system
from 2.08 was better, counting from round 1 upward (as far as I
remember). Unless, well, this is a WIP time limit.
- 8) Army size. I've noticed that after
conquering neighboring territories, the next ones have 9 or 10 enemy
units, and further ones probably more and/or higher tier ones. It
remains to be seen, but I suspect it's an unwinnable situation in
current release. Seeing the combat „tutorial” above, I notice
that this army size will probably increase (queen nest upgrade?)
And these are my thoughts and notes so
far. Anyway, keep up the good job. It looks absolutely promising :)
Thank you so much for playing and offering detailed feedback. Many great insights. I am still putting out more features, there will be answers for many of these worries. And you are on point on the benefits from increased relationship level and traits. That one I am still tweaking a bit. But stay tune!
Then again, I'll address a point made on the previous review by Untamed Brave Sophung about
- 9) tutorials. The game is a bit confusing initially after the end of prologue. Perhaps it would be good to expand "Knowledge" feature with another "Step by step" feature for players who prefer more detailed tutorials. Also, at the start, after Lilith gets banished, perhaps a dialogue option to show or not show tips.
- 10) There is also a problem with Cirrus' special power. Every heart takes 3 sec to consume, while its' spawn time is 16 secs. 6x3=18, so player might not have time to feed a Cirrus enough before it spawns, unless it's coupled in a squad with another monster and/or at the back of a queue. I agree that it's power is quite strong, but definitely not worth 6 hearts, since it requires Cirrus to get damaged first and so, the speed buff is shorthanded. As far as I've seen, all enemies have 1 or 2 heart cost on their abilities and they are quite powerful for such a low cost. Which actually negates the player getting heart acquisition buff, because enemy can still arm all their units with specials (2 hearts for reflecting 60% of damage received is very, very powerful, just as complete invulnerability to intelligence class attacks).
- 11) Also, the encyclopedia: I suggest introducing a script that would update monster database as they are scouted and/or Lilith encounters and then knows more about them. The monsters present in Secret Garden would be vaguely described at start, but others would be "Unknown", then "Unidentified" once terrain is scouted, then a name and picture appears once Lilith encounters them. Then its lore and battle characteristics would be expanded upon bonding, as Lilith gains more insight about that particular species (perhaps bonding with certain species would actually unlock special power for the entire species?). The ones not introduced yet into the game would better be named "Absent". For this, I propose expanding battle stats in Encyclopedia by "Prey" (enemy hard countered by a monster) and "Nemesis" (enemy that hard counters a monster) - which would be updated once that monster encounters its prey or nemesis in battle.
- 12) And speaking about outlines also mentioned by Untamed Brave Sophung I think it's also a good idea. I imagine it (coupling it with Encyclopedia idea above) as follows: Upon entering an unscouted region, you have no outliners - you have to scout it first. Then, after scouting, an outline appears where an unidentified (or identified if already encountered) was spotted with an overlaying text "Unidentified Tentacle Monster spotted in this area", then after identifying a monster, its image and name appears within the outline. If you scout when already having the monster encountered before, an image and name appears immediately, without the "unidentified" message.
- 13) It is also weird for me that Lilith can explore freely in an enemy-occupied region. Perhaps it would be better to restrict "Explore" feature to owned regions. I know that they contain more powerful monsters which actually are vital to defeating 7-8 numbered enemy armies, so perhaps those regions could have smaller enemy population to give player an easier start.
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- 14) Automatic squad assignment is bad. The game usually couples one species with another that I want solo or moves a defensive unit into backline, making my offensive ones take the brunt of attack. It would be a lot better if player could assign monsters to squads manually. Perhaps an expansion upon Royal Army tab? Like you are at Royal Army and in the bottom left corner you have a "Squads" button. When you click on it, you have tabs like Squad T3, Squad T2, Squad T1, Squad B1, Squad B2, Squad B3, from top to bottom, each with "manage" button to the left and "Royal Army" button in the bottom left corner to return. Or if a player wants auto squad assignment, there'd be a toggle that would enable or gray out "Squads" tab.
You are the first one who is willing to talk about the battle ^O^ I play quite a bit dota, getting people to talk about my balance feels excited!
9) I haz a mouse over knowledge section for each feature in the newer version.
10) Feeding a heart takes 2 secs, so 6 hearts in 16 secs is feasible but needs to be quick. The way I try to design it is bit inspired by dota, in terms of risk management. I want a species to be viable in only a certain situation. Some abilities are somewhat unstoppable when the condition is right. I need to make sure it costs a bit or else it would be a solution for everything. But I agree that the monster reflecting 60% is getting a good deal XD I will tweak it a bit once we have more challenging enemies.
11, 12) Those are great suggestions. I am seriously considering them.
13) That was the original design. I still intend to do it after we have enough features introduced.
14) Yes, managing our own squads would be the most ideal. I want to keep it as an unlockable feature though.
Thank you for the awesome suggestions and feedback again.
Actually, I thought about a little expansion to 12): after scouting, outliners would not be shown as well. However, on a strategic map, you'd get an "Unidentified monster spotted". Then, you could explore the region (since only Secret Garden monsters would initially be in encyclopedia, Lilith does not know which part of the region a monster inhabits), thus no outliners - or perhaps just outliners without any information. Once Lilith found a skin an outliner would show up with text "Unidentified Tentacle Monster confirmed in this area". If she experienced an encounter first, the image and name would immediately appear.
About 10): yes, it is feasible. However, for a monster that does show up late and has a tendency to match other monsters in squad (at least in my playthroughs), which prolongs its appearance even more, and the cost of 6 hearts... its special power is far too weak. Especially considering its basic combat value which is at comparable level with enemy tier 1 monsters - as far as I remember, an arthropod locust-looking monster, which is T1, still beats Cirrus, which is not only T4, but also of the same class. I don't play dota... though I play a lot of LoL and I agree that low-risk high-power characters area menace, still if they are high-risk low-power, nobody uses them. I once or twice managed to feed that Cirrus all 6 hearts, but they turned up to be a waste of resource, since well - the bonus is not only costly, but (like I wrote before) also short-handed. I think there are stronger rewards that cost less, like atk speed debuff on Scrapper that costs mere 2 hearts. Does almost the same, but doesn't need your monster to be low on health. Actually, there is a champion in LoL, Olaf, that has a passive very similar to Cirrus (atk speed based on missing health) - trust me, if they added a highly risky timed quest to activate it, he'd be completely unplayable. In my opinion, an ability like this is worth 4 hearts tops. Bottom line, this monster is highly risky with a far too weak reward to back up the risk. I would understand such risk on a nuker (that tier 4 unit of silvans - costs 4 hearts (+50% movement speed and 3x damage on hit [60, which can almost instantly kill some monsters])), but not really on a berserker - a single ranged unit on the backline is enough to put a stop to it quickly. If it also decreased damage received based on missing health, now that would be worth... 5 hearts. Still not 6. Remember that software already has an advantage over player in terms of reacting to the fact that it already has an another heart to feed the army. Tell you what. Try to add a unit with the same characteristics and power (and cost) in an enemy army. And let's see if the computer actually uses it (and, as it would be forced to play at least some of these units, if it can win). Because in terms of economy and stats comparison, the machine will always be better - we can only estimate, they work on exact values (Ok, if I sit down, and write the stats down before I hit "Battle", I can probably do the same, but that would take another 30-60 minutes to calculate, which I'd much rather spend watching some tentacle making love to Lilith :D ). Bottom line, the machine will always take the most efficient way to use its units. In other way, it will have already tested all possible combinations and chosen the one that takes it closest to victory. Since, if it does not arm a Cirrus-like unit with heart upgrade, it means it's not worth the resource.
- 15) Give some early ranged unit to Silvans. My 8-strong army is destroying their 10-strong armies at first attempt XD
BTW: What does actually Agility stand for? Because in current release, though attack and HP are self explanatory, agility is not explained. Atk speed? Chance to dodge an attack?
EDIT:
- 16) Garrisons: Since every time I use "Rest" feature, I get message saying that enemies might make their move, I conclude that in future versions enemies will be able to reconquer territories, right? If so, then I suggest allowing player to garrison regions with monsters from the pool, with max capacity equal to max capacity of Royal Army (or perhaps a different cap based on nest upgrades?). Garrisons would fend for themselves (eg, would not constitute a drain upon player's food supply) and if territory is invaded, a battle between AIs would occur in the background (player will only get notified of result). If there is no garrison, enemy attack would automatically trigger a manual battle between invaders and Royal Army (monsters in Royal Army would not lose stamina during defense).
- 17) Battle experience: In addition to relationship level, I suggest putting up a battle level. Every battle would give a monster a certain amount of XP, with levels from 0 to 3 (like in C&C Generals - Veteran, Elite, Heroic). Every level would result in 10% increase of base battle stats. Tentacles would gain 1.5x XP if they win against enemy with one more unit and 2x if 2+ more units.
- 18) Monster suggestion: Name: Membra Tier 4 In terms of traits, a slightly upgraded Dubois, but with ability to forage for 6-8 food instead of 3-5. Class: Speed Habitat: Mountains (also considering something new: Adaptive-Migrational) Appearance: Slightly resembles a lizard-cat hybrid, silvery or dark-gray hue and emerald-green eyes. Membranous tail and lots of small tentacles and one big on its back. (can draw if you approve actually did draw it [don't mind lack of light-shade, it's still wip]: http://tinypic.com/r/23lld93/9) HP: 90 ATK: 15 AGI: 105 (until I know just how and what Agility affects, hard to extrapolate an accurate value) Special: On attack, causes enemy to bleed for 5 HP/sec over 10 seconds (renewable but not stackable). Cost: 3 hearts. Spawn time: 9 sec Mating behavior: Vaginal. Methodical, distrustful attitude (changes along the course of bonding). Ties Lilith back-to-back with small tentacles across belly and neck, then mates her with the big one. Its mating tendril secretes endodermal absorbing euphoric, granting females an intense sensual experience.
Haha thank you for the awesome suggestions. Allow me to keep it short so I can rush out the new update.
12) I will expand on your suggestion and polish the feature in the future.
10) Keep in mind that we will have more monsters in the future that could benefit greatly with each other. Some could provide crazy sustain and render some situation difficult to balance. Tiers represent mainly their strength in battle effects.
15) Haha thank you for reminding me to explain Agi. It is used for calculating miss chance. Each 1% difference indicates a percent of miss chance. I will put this in battle tips.
16,17,18) Interesting suggestions! I will keep them in mind. What I wish more is some mating pose ideas. We have like 50~60 species, and it is sometimes difficult to come up with some creative motion and pose for everyone, that is also fitting of their respective themes.
What about a feature that tells us the creatures we made by bonding and how to create them so we won't create them again like for instance Myrmidon+Myrmidon+Myrmidon=Myrmidon something like that would be nice.
I have never hit the donate button so fast before. Have been looking so long for a lewd adventure game focused on breeding AND including pregnancy mechanics and a moderately elaborate in-game world mechanics. This game, thus, surpasses Breeding Season/Cloudy Meadow in regards to what tropes and ideas I really, really wanted in this kind of game.
As the game is still in early alpha stages, it goes without saying that the art still have a few ways to go and the UI is yet to be polished, so I'll give a few feedbacks and suggestions regarding other aspects:
1-Exploration Life Quality: when the player is viewing a location, it would be nice if clickable parts of the landscape where already indicated as such or where highlighted from the background, just so to prevent some minor "pixel hunting" and to prevent new players from getting confused as to where they should click on. Also, when Exploring somewhere you have already explored before, the game could give display a few tooltips to remind the player of what he can find in the area the mouse is hovering over, as well as some information on the area.
2-Strategic Information: it is much appreciated that game doesn't handhold the player with patronizing tutorials nor leaves the player to their own devices with minimal static tutorials, as well as the fact that the game trickles mechanics and actions in so the player is not overwhelmed with choices early on, but nevertheless I still had a slightly hard time figuring out what to do and how to plan ahead my actions. For instance, how do I know which Monsters are better for hunting or for being in my army? How do I know the possible risks and rewards of my actions? How do I know what kind of Monster I gave birth to? How do I know what exactly "Bonding" does and why it requires me to click somewhere on the map? I could use the game giving me some information to aid me on deciding what to do and hinting me on the game mechanics.
3-Instant Texts: I am a very fast reader, to the point I can read the text faster than it is slowly displayed. This causes me to just keep clicking the mouse to make the message fully display and then to continue the text. This is a bit annoying. I think there should be an option to make texts display instantly in dialogues.
4-Turn/Round Cycles: instead of making a Round be a "budget" of Turns the player can take, you could convert the Turn/Road cycle to a Day/Night cycle in which each Turn takes a portion of the cycle (kinda like Persona games, for instance), and put a button on the GUI to wait out a Turn to make all Monsters rest to regain some Stamina. This way, you can reuse the Stamina mechanics and let the player be able to continuously take actions if he can afford it, instead of forcing an awkward pacing where the player has to keep going in and out of the base to Rest after spurs of only a handful of actions.
5- Flash's life is a flash in a pan: Flash has long been a very clunky development environment for games and inefficient plataform for larger games, and it is only a short time away from being discontinued and rendered completely obsolete. This game's release can be mired by Flash's limitations as it becomes become asset intensive or more involved mechanics are developed. I suggest you look for other game engines to develop the game on, such as Unity3D, Game Maker or Multimedia Fusion. Unity3D is the better option if you want to make the game be playable on a browser.
6-Better Hunting: maybe you could allow the player to select multiple Monsters to go hunting so to bring back more food. After all, having to order hunts one-by-one gets a bit annoying after a while. The same applies, in part, to many other actions that are likely to be taken many times over in one Round.
Feedbacks aside, I really, realy, really look forward for the next updates. I'm a game developer and artist as well so if you need any help, don't feel shy on asking me anything.
Your words too kind! All the inputs are really on point~ Thank you for taking your time to not only try my game, but also offer such valuable feedback. Join us on Discord! https://discord.gg/M4vN5qy
This is a really great game. One of the best i have ever played and it has so much potential. Please keep it up :). I found only 2 things that really bothered me and those are:
1- Going all the way back to home for resting is annoying because you do that through the game like 100 times and doing it over and over kinda annoyed me.
2-Hunting is boring af. I mean being cautious about your food stock every day to not to fuck up is cool i think it makes the game challenging but i think you made a really boring way to stock up food.
It's still a great game i think and it's new so im sure you will put really good stuff I will keep checking it out thanks for making this.
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First of all thanks for the Game. :)
Then I have a Question about breeding. Since it's the most ''interesting'' part for me i wonder if you only can breed with the 4 monsters that are on the main map ?
1. After that i want to say that that the whole Hunting and Food system is very irritating. I was lucky so get 109 Food through a bug and that made the game much more enjoyable for a short time. I would suggest to either buff the hunting skills of basically everything or just leave the food system out complettly. I've at least spend 20 rounds just on hunting which is no fun.
2. For the invade/battle system i wish you could switch the line up right befor the start of the fight, as far is i know you only can manipulate the line up through the order on which you ad them in the Royal army.
And then i have to say that you created an uniquely sexy Charakter with the Queen. I don't know what it is but i have never seen such a hot virtual charakter.
And then i have to say that you created an uniquely sexy Charakter with the Queen. I don't know what it is but i have never seen such a hot virtual charakter.
Absolutely right!
Haha thanks :)
1) Yea I was trying to implement the negative consequences later after more core features are introduced, but some people wanted some challenge so I went with it. But loading game offer 99 food when you have no food is left, that is a transitional arrangement for now. Not a bug :)
2) It will be an unlockable feature to arrange your line up.
So, first I played 2.08...
I actually skipped 2.10, going directly to this version (3.01). And I'm quite impressed by progress. I really like it and am looking forward for future releases. Trust me, I've never before spent 5+ hours on a flash game before :O
However, I've noticed numerous issues:
- 1) First off, there is a programming error - on Moth encounter, an Inuax is born (on second play Scrapper was, so there is definitely some bigger error). Also, When I reached 5x Dubois, further attempts produce Scrappers. Also, after "bonding" with Cirrus, another Scrapper spawned. I consider this to be a vitally major problem, because well... it's not like player breeds Lilith with a certain species to get a random one :D
- 2) And yes, an aforementioned food supply problem. Even as Dubois gets 3-5 food per hunt, usually 4, that means if we sacrifice an entire round for hunting, and if we are very lucky, the maximum potential food production per round is 25 – which is equal to monster number cap in this respect. However, every hunt costs 30 stamina, while a monster regenerates 20 stamina per round. This means that for every turn in a round we have to have 2 food gathering monsters, which will hunt interchangeably between rounds. The result is that player is forced to have 10x Dubois (after getting 5 of them I started getting Scrappers from breeding Lilith with Dubois [WTF?!]) in order to sustain a 25 unit strong population - and we assume you're getting 5 food from every hunt and spend all turns on hunting only. I comply with former suggestions about creating hunting parties, just like Royal Army is done. Or perhaps being able to add multiple monsters to a single hunt. Bottom line, food economy was a bit hard on economy even before, with added stamina it quickly makes you lose random monsters. Usually it's a freshly born one that is about to mature into the kind of monster you wanted. - really, at my second play, I just kept low pop, bred Dubois only and stockpiled a ton of food before I moved on to breed an army. Though I suspect it won't last for long. Generally, after like 12 units you get bottlenecked on supply.
Correction: With 12 units I'm generally able to keep a positive supply of food, having 4x Dubois. Still, this system could be better. As I consciously have to ommit hunting in order to get rid of monsters that no longer support the immediate tactics.
- 3) Also, dismissing monsters. That would be a major utility, to keep control of food drain, while keeping precisely the monsters you need. At the moment, the only way to get rid of monsters is to starve them. But again, it takes either a random one or „the least loyal one”. Usually a newborn if there is, which is bad. Couple this with point 1) and you're losing the whole strategy in this game, because you get a random monster which you have no way of getting rid of other than getting 0 food.
- 4) Then, I was pleasantly surprised with the addition of "Bonding" feature, but still, it has issues. Primarily, I don't see what monster level gives. I have a lv4 and lv3 Dubois and they seem to have actually lower stats than freshly matured ones. Perhaps level could give an increased stamina regen instead? That actually would make "bonding" feature worthwile. And would be a lot simplier in programming, and as such, less prone to bugs. Because, every monster has different stats so you have to manually set which ones are advanced (unless all are, though +1 for every level is... little, considering they usually have 40-70 points on a trait). Bonding with a certain monster is simply... not economical at all as it is now.
- 5) Also, the Royal Army problem I've seen in reviews on NG (where I originally found your artwork) and had it confirmed in-game – if a monster gets injured in combat, it retains „R” even though it's removed from army. Thus, if it heals, it can never be reassigned anymore.
- 6) Other thing, what I also saw mentioned on NG and support would be a button to immediately return to base without the need of clicking a lot.
- 7) Round counter. It counts from round 99 downward, eventually reaching negative values. The system from 2.08 was better, counting from round 1 upward (as far as I remember). Unless, well, this is a WIP time limit.
- 8) Army size. I've noticed that after conquering neighboring territories, the next ones have 9 or 10 enemy units, and further ones probably more and/or higher tier ones. It remains to be seen, but I suspect it's an unwinnable situation in current release. Seeing the combat „tutorial” above, I notice that this army size will probably increase (queen nest upgrade?)
And these are my thoughts and notes so far. Anyway, keep up the good job. It looks absolutely promising :)
Thank you so much for playing and offering detailed feedback. Many great insights. I am still putting out more features, there will be answers for many of these worries. And you are on point on the benefits from increased relationship level and traits. That one I am still tweaking a bit. But stay tune!
Then again, I'll address a point made on the previous review by Untamed Brave Sophung about
- 9) tutorials. The game is a bit confusing initially after the end of prologue. Perhaps it would be good to expand "Knowledge" feature with another "Step by step" feature for players who prefer more detailed tutorials. Also, at the start, after Lilith gets banished, perhaps a dialogue option to show or not show tips.
- 10) There is also a problem with Cirrus' special power. Every heart takes 3 sec to consume, while its' spawn time is 16 secs. 6x3=18, so player might not have time to feed a Cirrus enough before it spawns, unless it's coupled in a squad with another monster and/or at the back of a queue. I agree that it's power is quite strong, but definitely not worth 6 hearts, since it requires Cirrus to get damaged first and so, the speed buff is shorthanded. As far as I've seen, all enemies have 1 or 2 heart cost on their abilities and they are quite powerful for such a low cost. Which actually negates the player getting heart acquisition buff, because enemy can still arm all their units with specials (2 hearts for reflecting 60% of damage received is very, very powerful, just as complete invulnerability to intelligence class attacks).
- 11) Also, the encyclopedia: I suggest introducing a script that would update monster database as they are scouted and/or Lilith encounters and then knows more about them. The monsters present in Secret Garden would be vaguely described at start, but others would be "Unknown", then "Unidentified" once terrain is scouted, then a name and picture appears once Lilith encounters them. Then its lore and battle characteristics would be expanded upon bonding, as Lilith gains more insight about that particular species (perhaps bonding with certain species would actually unlock special power for the entire species?). The ones not introduced yet into the game would better be named "Absent". For this, I propose expanding battle stats in Encyclopedia by "Prey" (enemy hard countered by a monster) and "Nemesis" (enemy that hard counters a monster) - which would be updated once that monster encounters its prey or nemesis in battle.
- 12) And speaking about outlines also mentioned by Untamed Brave Sophung I think it's also a good idea. I imagine it (coupling it with Encyclopedia idea above) as follows: Upon entering an unscouted region, you have no outliners - you have to scout it first. Then, after scouting, an outline appears where an unidentified (or identified if already encountered) was spotted with an overlaying text "Unidentified Tentacle Monster spotted in this area", then after identifying a monster, its image and name appears within the outline. If you scout when already having the monster encountered before, an image and name appears immediately, without the "unidentified" message.
- 13) It is also weird for me that Lilith can explore freely in an enemy-occupied region. Perhaps it would be better to restrict "Explore" feature to owned regions. I know that they contain more powerful monsters which actually are vital to defeating 7-8 numbered enemy armies, so perhaps those regions could have smaller enemy population to give player an easier start.
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- 14) Automatic squad assignment is bad. The game usually couples one species with another that I want solo or moves a defensive unit into backline, making my offensive ones take the brunt of attack. It would be a lot better if player could assign monsters to squads manually. Perhaps an expansion upon Royal Army tab? Like you are at Royal Army and in the bottom left corner you have a "Squads" button. When you click on it, you have tabs like Squad T3, Squad T2, Squad T1, Squad B1, Squad B2, Squad B3, from top to bottom, each with "manage" button to the left and "Royal Army" button in the bottom left corner to return. Or if a player wants auto squad assignment, there'd be a toggle that would enable or gray out "Squads" tab.
You are the first one who is willing to talk about the battle ^O^ I play quite a bit dota, getting people to talk about my balance feels excited!
9) I haz a mouse over knowledge section for each feature in the newer version.
10) Feeding a heart takes 2 secs, so 6 hearts in 16 secs is feasible but needs to be quick. The way I try to design it is bit inspired by dota, in terms of risk management. I want a species to be viable in only a certain situation. Some abilities are somewhat unstoppable when the condition is right. I need to make sure it costs a bit or else it would be a solution for everything. But I agree that the monster reflecting 60% is getting a good deal XD I will tweak it a bit once we have more challenging enemies.
11, 12) Those are great suggestions. I am seriously considering them.
13) That was the original design. I still intend to do it after we have enough features introduced.
14) Yes, managing our own squads would be the most ideal. I want to keep it as an unlockable feature though.
Thank you for the awesome suggestions and feedback again.
Actually, I thought about a little expansion to 12): after scouting, outliners would not be shown as well. However, on a strategic map, you'd get an "Unidentified monster spotted". Then, you could explore the region (since only Secret Garden monsters would initially be in encyclopedia, Lilith does not know which part of the region a monster inhabits), thus no outliners - or perhaps just outliners without any information. Once Lilith found a skin an outliner would show up with text "Unidentified Tentacle Monster confirmed in this area". If she experienced an encounter first, the image and name would immediately appear.
About 10): yes, it is feasible. However, for a monster that does show up late and has a tendency to match other monsters in squad (at least in my playthroughs), which prolongs its appearance even more, and the cost of 6 hearts... its special power is far too weak. Especially considering its basic combat value which is at comparable level with enemy tier 1 monsters - as far as I remember, an arthropod locust-looking monster, which is T1, still beats Cirrus, which is not only T4, but also of the same class. I don't play dota... though I play a lot of LoL and I agree that low-risk high-power characters area menace, still if they are high-risk low-power, nobody uses them. I once or twice managed to feed that Cirrus all 6 hearts, but they turned up to be a waste of resource, since well - the bonus is not only costly, but (like I wrote before) also short-handed. I think there are stronger rewards that cost less, like atk speed debuff on Scrapper that costs mere 2 hearts. Does almost the same, but doesn't need your monster to be low on health. Actually, there is a champion in LoL, Olaf, that has a passive very similar to Cirrus (atk speed based on missing health) - trust me, if they added a highly risky timed quest to activate it, he'd be completely unplayable. In my opinion, an ability like this is worth 4 hearts tops. Bottom line, this monster is highly risky with a far too weak reward to back up the risk. I would understand such risk on a nuker (that tier 4 unit of silvans - costs 4 hearts (+50% movement speed and 3x damage on hit [60, which can almost instantly kill some monsters])), but not really on a berserker - a single ranged unit on the backline is enough to put a stop to it quickly. If it also decreased damage received based on missing health, now that would be worth... 5 hearts. Still not 6. Remember that software already has an advantage over player in terms of reacting to the fact that it already has an another heart to feed the army. Tell you what. Try to add a unit with the same characteristics and power (and cost) in an enemy army. And let's see if the computer actually uses it (and, as it would be forced to play at least some of these units, if it can win). Because in terms of economy and stats comparison, the machine will always be better - we can only estimate, they work on exact values (Ok, if I sit down, and write the stats down before I hit "Battle", I can probably do the same, but that would take another 30-60 minutes to calculate, which I'd much rather spend watching some tentacle making love to Lilith :D ). Bottom line, the machine will always take the most efficient way to use its units. In other way, it will have already tested all possible combinations and chosen the one that takes it closest to victory. Since, if it does not arm a Cirrus-like unit with heart upgrade, it means it's not worth the resource.
- 15) Give some early ranged unit to Silvans. My 8-strong army is destroying their 10-strong armies at first attempt XD
BTW: What does actually Agility stand for? Because in current release, though attack and HP are self explanatory, agility is not explained. Atk speed? Chance to dodge an attack?
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- 16) Garrisons: Since every time I use "Rest" feature, I get message saying that enemies might make their move, I conclude that in future versions enemies will be able to reconquer territories, right? If so, then I suggest allowing player to garrison regions with monsters from the pool, with max capacity equal to max capacity of Royal Army (or perhaps a different cap based on nest upgrades?). Garrisons would fend for themselves (eg, would not constitute a drain upon player's food supply) and if territory is invaded, a battle between AIs would occur in the background (player will only get notified of result). If there is no garrison, enemy attack would automatically trigger a manual battle between invaders and Royal Army (monsters in Royal Army would not lose stamina during defense).
- 17) Battle experience: In addition to relationship level, I suggest putting up a battle level. Every battle would give a monster a certain amount of XP, with levels from 0 to 3 (like in C&C Generals - Veteran, Elite, Heroic). Every level would result in 10% increase of base battle stats. Tentacles would gain 1.5x XP if they win against enemy with one more unit and 2x if 2+ more units.
- 18) Monster suggestion:
Name: Membra
Tier 4
In terms of traits, a slightly upgraded Dubois, but with ability to forage for 6-8 food instead of 3-5.
Class: Speed
Habitat: Mountains (also considering something new: Adaptive-Migrational)
Appearance: Slightly resembles a lizard-cat hybrid, silvery or dark-gray hue and emerald-green eyes. Membranous tail and lots of small tentacles and one big on its back. (
can draw if you approveactually did draw it [don't mind lack of light-shade, it's still wip]: http://tinypic.com/r/23lld93/9)HP: 90
ATK: 15
AGI: 105 (until I know just how and what Agility affects, hard to extrapolate an accurate value)
Special: On attack, causes enemy to bleed for 5 HP/sec over 10 seconds (renewable but not stackable). Cost: 3 hearts.
Spawn time: 9 sec
Mating behavior: Vaginal. Methodical, distrustful attitude (changes along the course of bonding). Ties Lilith back-to-back with small tentacles across belly and neck, then mates her with the big one. Its mating tendril secretes endodermal absorbing euphoric, granting females an intense sensual experience.
Haha thank you for the awesome suggestions. Allow me to keep it short so I can rush out the new update.
12) I will expand on your suggestion and polish the feature in the future.
10) Keep in mind that we will have more monsters in the future that could benefit greatly with each other. Some could provide crazy sustain and render some situation difficult to balance. Tiers represent mainly their strength in battle effects.
15) Haha thank you for reminding me to explain Agi. It is used for calculating miss chance. Each 1% difference indicates a percent of miss chance. I will put this in battle tips.
16,17,18) Interesting suggestions! I will keep them in mind. What I wish more is some mating pose ideas. We have like 50~60 species, and it is sometimes difficult to come up with some creative motion and pose for everyone, that is also fitting of their respective themes.
What about a feature that tells us the creatures we made by bonding and how to create them so we won't create them again like for instance Myrmidon+Myrmidon+Myrmidon=Myrmidon something like that would be nice.
I have never hit the donate button so fast before. Have been looking so long for a lewd adventure game focused on breeding AND including pregnancy mechanics and a moderately elaborate in-game world mechanics. This game, thus, surpasses Breeding Season/Cloudy Meadow in regards to what tropes and ideas I really, really wanted in this kind of game.
As the game is still in early alpha stages, it goes without saying that the art still have a few ways to go and the UI is yet to be polished, so I'll give a few feedbacks and suggestions regarding other aspects:
1-Exploration Life Quality: when the player is viewing a location, it would be nice if clickable parts of the landscape where already indicated as such or where highlighted from the background, just so to prevent some minor "pixel hunting" and to prevent new players from getting confused as to where they should click on. Also, when Exploring somewhere you have already explored before, the game could give display a few tooltips to remind the player of what he can find in the area the mouse is hovering over, as well as some information on the area.
2-Strategic Information: it is much appreciated that game doesn't handhold the player with patronizing tutorials nor leaves the player to their own devices with minimal static tutorials, as well as the fact that the game trickles mechanics and actions in so the player is not overwhelmed with choices early on, but nevertheless I still had a slightly hard time figuring out what to do and how to plan ahead my actions. For instance, how do I know which Monsters are better for hunting or for being in my army? How do I know the possible risks and rewards of my actions? How do I know what kind of Monster I gave birth to? How do I know what exactly "Bonding" does and why it requires me to click somewhere on the map? I could use the game giving me some information to aid me on deciding what to do and hinting me on the game mechanics.
3-Instant Texts: I am a very fast reader, to the point I can read the text faster than it is slowly displayed. This causes me to just keep clicking the mouse to make the message fully display and then to continue the text. This is a bit annoying. I think there should be an option to make texts display instantly in dialogues.
4-Turn/Round Cycles: instead of making a Round be a "budget" of Turns the player can take, you could convert the Turn/Road cycle to a Day/Night cycle in which each Turn takes a portion of the cycle (kinda like Persona games, for instance), and put a button on the GUI to wait out a Turn to make all Monsters rest to regain some Stamina. This way, you can reuse the Stamina mechanics and let the player be able to continuously take actions if he can afford it, instead of forcing an awkward pacing where the player has to keep going in and out of the base to Rest after spurs of only a handful of actions.
5- Flash's life is a flash in a pan: Flash has long been a very clunky development environment for games and inefficient plataform for larger games, and it is only a short time away from being discontinued and rendered completely obsolete. This game's release can be mired by Flash's limitations as it becomes become asset intensive or more involved mechanics are developed. I suggest you look for other game engines to develop the game on, such as Unity3D, Game Maker or Multimedia Fusion. Unity3D is the better option if you want to make the game be playable on a browser.
6-Better Hunting: maybe you could allow the player to select multiple Monsters to go hunting so to bring back more food. After all, having to order hunts one-by-one gets a bit annoying after a while. The same applies, in part, to many other actions that are likely to be taken many times over in one Round.
Feedbacks aside, I really, realy, really look forward for the next updates. I'm a game developer and artist as well so if you need any help, don't feel shy on asking me anything.
Your words too kind! All the inputs are really on point~ Thank you for taking your time to not only try my game, but also offer such valuable feedback. Join us on Discord! https://discord.gg/M4vN5qy
This is a really great game. One of the best i have ever played and it has so much potential. Please keep it up :). I found only 2 things that really bothered me and those are:
1- Going all the way back to home for resting is annoying because you do that through the game like 100 times and doing it over and over kinda annoyed me.
2-Hunting is boring af. I mean being cautious about your food stock every day to not to fuck up is cool i think it makes the game challenging but i think you made a really boring way to stock up food.
It's still a great game i think and it's new so im sure you will put really good stuff I will keep checking it out thanks for making this.
Thank you for the kind words~
1. I hear you, I have plan for a feature to help us saves some clicks.
2. There are features coming up that offer us more options to gather food.
I am focusing all my time on training our new recruits right now, but it shouldn't take long before I get back into dev mode ^^
I really like the concept and am looking forward to seeing how this game progresses.
Thanks mate~
Thanks for making it avaliable =)
Thank you for trying it~